Mad Irishman

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  Do You Know Of Anyone Who Left JWs And Then Decided To Return?

  by minimus in

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  quite a few years ago there was a poster here that left the religion because he knew it was simply not true.

  however, he returned to jws because he wanted to be with his family.

  i don’t know how he is doing but gumby was his name.

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  Mad Irishman

  It seems that there are a lot of ex-JW's going back of late. More than I've ever seen.
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  I yelled at dubs today ( again )

  by kairos in

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  so i roll up to the job site and looky there, two uber pioneer dubs dragging themselves down the sidewalk.

  both ladies are in there early 60's and born in.. my heart started pumping, but i had to act.i was directly across the street from them.

  i walked right to the sidewalk and said in a very loud, but not mean voice: "you can't teach overlapping generations from the bible!!

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  Mad Irishman

  You are a jackass for yelling at anyone. Especially old ladies. What a fool.
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  Banners for London Protest

  by Farmer Jim1 in

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  hi folks, i’m attending the london protest at the excel convention in august and am making some banners.

  i’m aiming for short but memorable sentences that will stick in jws minds and also make them laugh a little at their own organisation.. my best so far is ‘this is not a protest, it’s an overlapping protest’.

  has anyone got any ideas for more?.

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  Mad Irishman

  Whenever I saw protectors at assemblies I thought they were mindless idiots. Same as I do when I see them outside the company I work at. It's a waste of time.
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  Realization of something very close to a supernatural force but scientific

  by Bad_Wolf in

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  after finding patterns in lottery numbers and thinking about if random truly exists, i also flipped a coin for awhile.

  i was counted how many times i would get heads and tails and if they would equal out in the end.

  if heads slowly was getting ahead too much, i would suddenly get a bunch of tails in a row to almost equal it out.

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  Mad Irishman

  Dear Bad Wolf,

  A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.
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  Have Artifical Intelligence Run A Site That Deprograms Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  2. beliefs

  with all this talk about ai taking over jobs and finding cures by feeding it proper input data and a whole host of other tasks why not have scientist put up a site run by artificial intelligence to deprogram people from cults and offer them counseling as what to do after leaving the mind control cult.. i know this might be a very touchy place to put ai i think it would offer scientist working with ai to test its capabilities and do a public service at the same time.. perhaps offer it honestly to the public who are having doubts about a specific organization that is unduly controlling their lives.. and great if that would pass a turing test:.

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/turing_test.

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  Mad Irishman

  You obviously have no idea how AI works. Also, in North America people have the freedom to do whatever they want, believe whatever they want, worship whatever they want, etc. What you are proposing is rather chilling, un-American, and short-sighted. Who gets to decide who needs to be deprogrammed? It all sounds rather like what the Nazi's had in mind. If individuals don't want to follow a tenet then that is their right. It isn't anyone's right to tell other people what to do or think. You really need to do a self-examination my friend.
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  Research help needed: knowledge of Knights Templar and Masonic history vital

  by Fay Dehr in

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  i am in conversation with a uk historian regarding some knights templar locations, where jws have built buildings.

  *** this is serious research - not a joke *** .

  i am not - and do not wish to be - a conspiracy theorist, but something has come to light in the uk and i lack the knowledge of knights templar + masons.

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  Mad Irishman

  You poor soul. Go on and get a life and stop searching for breadcrumbs of conspiracy theory that do not exist. Free yourself! Free your brain! Free your soul, mon (insert Jamaican accent here!).

  Freemasons and the Knights Templar are convoluted tropes that uneducated people try to connect using casual connections to every government bungle, every religion on earth, every thread of history, every negative or strange occurrence; and all of it is lunacy. The sinking of the Titanic? It was Freemasons. Jack the Ripper? Probably a Freemason. Lee Harvey Oswald? Freemason. Elon Musk? A descendant from a long line of Knight Templars. Shirley Temple? Mini fembot controlled by aliens. 9/11? It was George Bush. Martin Shkreli?—well he’s just a rich, entitled jerk with a one-of-a-kind Wu Tang Clan album. Dixie’s Midnight Runners? Nobody can explain them! Point is: there is no connection between the Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Freemasons, Knights Templars, Ancient Aliens, Chevy Camaros, or Sasha Baron Cohen. It’s all fruit-loopy conspiracy theory that feeds into one’s insistence on having to prove their ex is the monster and they are not when really maybe both of you were just not into each other. I am truly amazed that throughout my lifetime of many, many years I’ve watched mostly rather non-educated ex-witnesseses read a book or find a website or hear a rumor and somehow think that they are the first to discover some amazing connection to their ex-religion that will finally take them down, or expose them, or find some meaning in the mistake they think they’ve made by wasting their life as a JW. It’s like getting divorced, because you don’t like your mate anymore; and then after the fact spending years trying to prove they may or may not have cheated on you from something you may have casually come across. You are broken up. You are free. You don’t have to justify the validity of your breakup. You are done with them. It is all cognitive bias. It’s projection. It’s not real. Go read a great book or go to Crater Lake or write a poem. Anything but waste the time of your precious life. You only have one life! Don’t waste it.
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  Olin Moyle

  by Vincent Law in

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  2. scandals

  olin moyle was a attorney for the wtbts during joseph rutherford reign.

  his papers from wtbts are still at princeton in the rare books section and boxed up.

  what is the likely hood that that there was political entanglement and that politics did not keep wtbts at arm's length but from time to time has used the wtbts for it's purposes.

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  Mad Irishman

  If I could look at all the Warren Commission papers I know I could find JFK's real killer (it was Nixon that had it done...I just know it!).

  Why don't you go read the documents and come back to us before you post something meaningless?
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  Watchtower Spies and Secret Agents

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  i'm posting this link:http://jwdivorces.bravehost.com/spies.htmlonce you start reading it you won't be able to stop.fascinating and well-documented citations which give credibility to the belief that such a sneaky, underhanded, and often illegal practice has been secretly promoted for decades by watchtower society world headquarters..

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  Mad Irishman

  This post is silly. There has never been a conspiracy to spy within the JW's. If you were once an elder you would know this is stupid. Have there been nutcase elders who does stupid things? Of course. But to put out there silly conspiracy things like this that are half-baked and wishful thinking make you look like a loon.
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  Anyone ever know gays in the hall that are lying to them selfs or others?

  by blownaway in

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  i know of three situations i saw myself.

  the first one was when i lived in arcadia.

  all the people i use names on are dead and gone so no probs.

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  Mad Irishman

  There are witnesses who openly admit they are homosexual, but do not act on their feelings. I've heard brothers give talks saying they are attracted to the same sex, but don't act on it and it is a great weight on them and that is their great burden. I've heard others say it in private. It wasn't a big secret back in the day.

  I know non-JW's that are obviously gay and don't wish to be and don't live a gay life-style. Live and let live. Who cares? People have to live the way they want to. There are gay men and women that wish they were not gay and they choose to not act on their feelings. That's their issue. If they want to live that way it's their choice. Who are we to criticize how others choose to live their life?
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  How the Watchtower and Big Tobacco conspired to propaganda techniques to survive the exposure of their dangers

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  the tobacco industry held in thrall millions of addicted smokers for decades with an almost endless litany of false claims reinforced by propaganda and bad science.it is informative and eye-opening to examine this brilliant but insidious strategy.1.

  exploiting controversy the tobacco team focused on "conflicts of interest" to create a distraction and exploit mistrust so nicotine addicts own confirmation bias would work in their favor.

  this strategy of producing scientific uncertainty undercut public health efforts and regulatory interventions designed to reduce the harms of smoking.the watchtower easily did the same thing by exploiting the confusing doctrine of the trinity and pointing to the corrupt history of the catholic church.

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  Mad Irishman

  Oh, my God. Tony Morris is not related to the Phillip Morris family. Know what you are talking about people. Morris is as dirt poor as they come and no relation. Plus he was estranged from his father anyway. Duh!